Those are nice, and like you our counter space is slowly being eaten up by "Stuff" so the Veto monster is very specific, LOL I need to experiment with the Moka Pot more, we could not get it right and it sits under the counter. My wife got me into this, as I was a 1 cup a day of anything resembling coffee as I was "brought up" on Lackland AFB coffee which was brewed in 1947 and still flows today, I think is was a joke from the Roswell Aliens, LOL. My wife does think she created a monster and there is no "light AD" with me. It is "Go big or Go home" ROFL. So I keep exploring as you do.