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CBLindsay said:
I appreciate the Order Bruce, I got it in the mail this morning. I included a small tub (3oz) of a veggie base soap I call "50 shades of vetiver", a Grey Vetiver like scent. This is the soap I made in the soap making 101 demo a month or two back.
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Ha! If that wasn't a veggie soap, I'd get it just for the name haha.
 
Honestly the Ghost Dragons Blood smelled very close to the Tell Tale Heart by THB, which is such a great scent.

And if you missed it in my journal, the performance of this stuff is definitely Elite for me. Chris has done an amazing job, and I wish him immense success! 01000111 00110101 00110001
 
WildWest74 said:
Honestly the Ghost Dragons Blood smelled very close to the Tell Tale Heart by THB, which is such a great scent.

And if you missed it in my journal, the performance of this stuff is definitely Elite for me. Chris has done an amazing job, and I wish him immense success! 01000111 00110101 00110001
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From my one shave with TabacaVeg I was very impressed with its performance. I'll get back to it in about a week or so. Got to finish up what I'm using now.
 
I have a sample of the Tabacaveg...I am affraid to use it!
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I had a sample of the Oatmeal Stout that I used tonight. I was worried that it would smell like I had hung out at the bar all night but was reassured that wouldn't be the case. So I wasn't sure what to expect when I removed the cover.....WOW this is nice. It smells like a warm bowl of oatmeal with a healthy dose of brown sugar (except not in a sweet way) on a cold winter morning. Totally a full comfort scent....nice.

Since this was a sample I just scooped some out and rubbed it around my face. The lather whipped up nicely and the lather was nice and creamy. It is very slick and that wonderful scent just grew as the lather built.

Finished a 3 pass and the after feel was very nice. I splashed some cold water on my face and just rubbed the left over lather all around my face.

The only thing to get use to is how soft the soap is. When does a soap become a cream? I was able to scoop out a little with my finger without any resistance. Now keep in mind that I have been using soaps like vintage Williams and MWF for close to a year so I am use to hard soaps.
 
The Monkey said:
I had a sample of the Oatmeal Stout that I used tonight. I was worried that it would smell like I had hung out at the bar all night but was reassured that wouldn't be the case. So I wasn't sure what to expect when I removed the cover.....WOW this is nice. It smells like a warm bowl of oatmeal with a healthy dose of brown sugar (except not in a sweet way) on a cold winter morning. Totally a full comfort scent....nice.

Since this was a sample I just scooped some out and rubbed it around my face. The lather whipped up nicely and the lather was nice and creamy. It is very slick and that wonderful scent just grew as the lather built.

Finished a 3 pass and the after feel was very nice. I splashed some cold water on my face and just rubbed the left over lather all around my face.

The only thing to get use to is how soft the soap is. When does a soap become a cream? I was able to scoop out a little with my finger without any resistance. Now keep in mind that I have been using soaps like vintage Williams and MWF for close to a year so I am use to hard soaps.
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You bring up a good point John. There are a few things that determine how hard or soft a soap might be. The major thing is the ratio of hard to soft fats, too much soft fat and you end up with a soft and mushy product. Another is how much of the fat is left in the soap (superfat) to provide a conditioned feel. Then you have additives like glycerin, more glycerin means a softer soap. Water content is another big contributor to a soaps being hard or soft. The type of lye used and any other additions play a role too.

I have mentioned it before but it bears mentioning again. The turning point for me in terms of making the best soap possible was when I abandoned the idea that my soaps had to be very firm. The things that make a soap firm limit the potential. I plan to firm up my future batches a bit (if possible) but there will be a limit as to how much firmer they get because I use a decent amount of very soft oils and glycerin. The Roasted Oatmeal stout is most certainly as close to a cream as can be had without it being obvious. The main culprit is the amount of soft oils AND how much of those oils are left as a superfat (unsaponified), believe me when I say I have driven off as much liquid as possible from that soap. Funny thing about the roasted oatmeal stout is that it melts to liquid at a very low temp and firms up enough to load directly on at room temp...all while being smearable.

Some of my other soap scents are a little softer too. The hemp formula is a touch softer because of the hemp oil and the way it was scented, it may firm up with time but it wont be much. The amount of fragrance oil added tends to have an impact but not a significant amount.
 
CBLindsay said:
You bring up a good point John. There are a few things that determine how hard or soft a soap might be. The major thing is the ratio of hard to soft fats, too much soft fat and you end up with a soft and mushy product. Another is how much of the fat is left in the soap (superfat) to provide a conditioned feel. Then you have additives like glycerin, more glycerin means a softer soap. Water content is another big contributor to a soaps being hard or soft. The type of lye used and any other additions play a role too.

I have mentioned it before but it bears mentioning again. The turning point for me in terms of making the best soap possible was when I abandoned the idea that my soaps had to be very firm. The things that make a soap firm limit the potential. I plan to firm up my future batches a bit (if possible) but there will be a limit as to how much firmer they get because I use a decent amount of very soft oils and glycerin. The Roasted Oatmeal stout is most certainly as close to a cream as can be had without it being obvious. The main culprit is the amount of soft oils AND how much of those oils are left as a superfat (unsaponified), believe me when I say I have driven off as much liquid as possible from that soap. Funny thing about the roasted oatmeal stout is that it melts to liquid at a very low temp and firms up enough to load directly on at room temp...all while being smearable.

Some of my other soap scents are a little softer too. The hemp formula is a touch softer because of the hemp oil and the way it was scented, it may firm up with time but it wont be much. The amount of fragrance oil added tends to have an impact but not a significant amount.
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Chris please don't take my post as a criticism, I was just pointing out my observation.

I'm not sure what the definition of a cream or a soap is. In my mind a soap holds it's form and a Cream will not. Is this a real definition? Probably not. No matter what it is the Oatmeal Stout was slick and left a great after feel, plus the smell is fantastic!!
 
The Monkey said:
Chris please don't take my post as a criticism, I was just pointing out my observation.

I'm not sure what the definition of a cream or a soap is. In my mind a soap holds it's form and a Cream will not. Is this a real definition? Probably not. No matter what it is the Oatmeal Stout was slick and left a great after feel, plus the smell is fantastic!!
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No offense taken. Your question is one that I think is asked often, especially as more and more “soft” soaps are made. ...then you have WSP cream that is as firm as any soap I’ve seen. The lines are definitely blurred.

In my opinion I don’t think it’s possible for an artisan to make a true cream without using emulsifiers and a bunch of water. My bench mark for cream is Proraso or arko cream. They are almost lotion like, they are so creamy.

I will offer this. If you can dip the tips of the brush into the tub and have the brush fully loaded, it’s a cream. If it can be loaded by swiping the brush ONCE across the surface, it’s a cream. If you need to swirl several times with a damp brush, it’s a soap.

I understand my “definition” of a cream or soap may be vastly different from that offered by others.
 
CBLindsay said:
I will offer this. If you can dip the tips of the brush into the tub and have the brush fully loaded, it’s a cream. If it can be loaded by swiping the brush ONCE across the surface, it’s a cream. If you need to swirl several times with a damp brush, it’s a soap.
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Without having really thought about it until reading this, yes, this is how I have at least subconsciously differentiated the two.

What about this: a cream could be squeezed from a tube, while a soap could not? Perhaps there are exceptions to the rule, but it would seem that even the soaps that can be “smeared” would be far too viscous to be in tube form. Just a thought... ?
 
Personally...I believe...if it has gone through saponification...then it's a soap.
 
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