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Chris,

Any thoughts going forward on making samples, when you introduce new scents? Like when you first introduce 10 new scents, making a sample pack that has all of them in it. I'm reading your above list of scents, and only a couple I'm all in for. But there are several I'm iffy on. I don't like making gambles on iffy, as scent notes and descriptions really don't get along with me. There's a huge disconnect between what my brain thinks something will smell like, and what it actually smells like. I'd love to just get a sample pack, to find out which ones I will love, then go all in with those.

(Light bulb moment)
Or maybe, make the samples the subscriptions service. Like little 1 oz samples of everything to introduce a new line?
 
I like the idea of having some base scents that are always available and then rotating through seasonal and special edition ones. Allows for you to be known for some scents and people to be pointed in the direction of those as well as enabling us to keep trading our money for new scent options.
I think you are spot on Dave.
 
Chris,

Any thoughts going forward on making samples, when you introduce new scents? Like when you first introduce 10 new scents, making a sample pack that has all of them in it. I'm reading your above list of scents, and only a couple I'm all in for. But there are several I'm iffy on. I don't like making gambles on iffy, as scent notes and descriptions really don't get along with me. There's a huge disconnect between what my brain thinks something will smell like, and what it actually smells like. I'd love to just get a sample pack, to find out which ones I will love, then go all in with those.

(Light bulb moment)
Or maybe, make the samples the subscriptions service. Like little 1 oz samples of everything to introduce a new line?

I am not opposed to samples. I avoided them to start mostly because stock was SO finely managed I had no room for samples without pulling a full tub from stock. Unless a particular fragrance is being made in very short supply I see no reason all current and future scents can't be available as samples. I have a personal aversion to using samples but I value the ability to give the creative scents a sniff without commiting to a full purchase.

I have a few working (freeform) ideas for a club or subscription type thing. I love the idea of regularly dipping into everyone's pockets but I want it to be something that would leave you feeling like you got a great deal. Certainly a package of 1 ounce samples introducing a new release could be a great value to everyone. I'm sure we'll figure something out that will be fun and exciting.
 
Well Don, you ask a very important question. I think the issue of scents, which to include, how much to make and how/when to add new ones is one that all artisans face and I am inclined to think how they address the issue plays a part in whether they are successful or not. With CBL still in its infancy I am still trying to figure out what scents I want to make part of my regular line-up and which ones I don't. I like the scents I have already but I think there is room for more. Eventually I would like to have a pretty fixed offering with few newer additions. I think the fixed offering is necessary to expand and become more mainstream. The problem with a fixed offering is it also puts a cap on how much an individual consumer can buy, perhaps this is why so many artisans branch out into aftershaves etc.

To answer your question(s) more specifically I will need to describe my process. When making a shave soap there are two basic ways to do it, scent and package the freshly made batch OR make a neutral base and scent/package later. In either case it is necessary to age the soap at least a week to get the best from it. I choose to make a neutral base, age it in buckets and scent prior to packaging. I think this ultimately leads to a better product (based on my formula) than a hot pour of a freshly made and scented base. My method affords me the opportunity to make and age soap without committing to the scent until I am ready to package. As a start-up I use this opportunity to explore new scents, once I am more established it will allow me to control inventory better.

If I were able to devote more time to CBL soap I might be able to maintain a large inventory of fragrance oils and scent each tub on demand. From a practical perspective this just doesn't work. I think it can lead to too many variations from tub to tub and it takes a LOT of time. As an alternative, I mix batches of 15-30 tubs worth of a scent. I can scoop from the tub as needed OR package the whole batch all at once. The limiting factor isn't just space to store the filled containers (although my wife would say this is a BIG factor) it is also the number of containers and labels I have on hand. One problem with NOT packaging the entire batch at once is that I don't have an exact count for inventory, I really don't want to think I have enough only to end up with a short fill on the last tub. Since I am still getting my name out there (thanks to the Cadre) I need to be prepared for a spike in orders of all sorts. Adding to this particular stress is the interest being expressed by vendors to have my soap on their shelves.

If I had a larger dedicated space (not in my plans right now) I could store more materials and finished product. As it stands now, cash flow and space are somewhat limiting. Fragrances are one of the most expensive parts of the final product. Buying in bulk saves a lot on a per ounce basis but costs substantially more up front. Once I have a more predictable or fixed menu I can justify purchasing in bulk but for now the quantities are a little more limited.

I am also limited in how much soap I can make in a given period of time. I have purchased more cookers and would like to get a BIG one but I will still have limits. Since I manage money by day and make soap by night I am unlikely to have the capacity to fill very large orders on a regular basis. I assume this will keep CBL from being available at Maggards or WCS and probably off Mantic's list of the best soaps.

In short, it is a little risky to have a large supply of any one scent on hand BUT not having enough on hand as the CBL name becomes more widespread could just as easily kill the business.

...about the hemp oil base. It would seem I need to keep this one going since it pleases so many of you. Unlike the beer base, which is very challenging to get right, the hemp oil base requires only a slight deviation from the norm. I will make a batch soon and have you give it a test to confirm it is as good as my first batch.

WOW! Thanks Chris for the answer. I figured that there was a lot to go into these decisions, but didn't realize how much. This makes me appreciate the soap making craft a bit more!

And I have to agree...the hemp oil base is a Premium of a Premium soap. VERY good indeed!
 
There is a soap that I love called "One With Nature" that makes an Orange Blossom soap. That is a scent that I really love. Just a thought, if you are still looking for scent ideas.
 
Interesting new lineup Chris!

Please take my words with a grain of salt, I know I haven’t been able to make a purchase yet. Let experienced voices prevail.

I am most interested in your recreation/reinvention of the Moos. I think that could be a real winner (have never seen a negative review of the original). I am also happy to hear about the campfire scent and possible return of the Oatmeal Stout (essentially a signature scent if I’m not mistaken)!

I still think you should pursue your original dream to recreate/reinvent the greatness of the old school vintages. At the very least I could see where you might benefit from a simple, fresh, Williams/Barbasol/Rive Gauche type scent in the line up. Maybe Moos is that answer? I don’t know.

So happy for you in your continued endeavor. I can read the excitement!
You should be very pleased with the planned CBL Barbershop scent. Moos is proving to be a bit more difficult to get the way I want it, I am very close to the cream scent but a little too far from the soap/stick scent.
 
You should be very pleased with the planned CBL Barbershop scent. Moos is proving to be a bit more difficult to get the way I want it, I am very close to the cream scent but a little too far from the soap/stick scent.
More cowbell!

<cue gif from Chris Noir>
 
KJ suggested I do a scent catalog on my website so visitors can quickly see and choose what scents they want. Being the kind of guy I am I took his advice and built such a page. I even listed the newest releases and a list of what is coming very soon. I didn't mention anything about how orders $74 or more ship for free but I am sure the cadre will figure that out. They might also figure out I have create a 10% coupon code that can be used on any order. I lack creativity so the code MIGHT be as easy as TSC new release 10%.

https://cblsoap.com/scent-catalog/
 
KJ suggested I do a scent catalog on my website so visitors can quickly see and choose what scents they want. Being the kind of guy I am I took his advice and built such a page. I even listed the newest releases and a list of what is coming very soon. I didn't mention anything about how orders $74 or more ship for free but I am sure the cadre will figure that out. They might also figure out I have create a 10% coupon code that can be used on any order. I lack creativity so the code MIGHT be as easy as TSC new release 10%.

https://cblsoap.com/scent-catalog/

Just checking in during my lay over before my vacation begins. Looks like my moratorium on soap purchases will be going out the window after I come back. I like the idea of 1 oz sample sizes or 2 oz half pucks as it allows me to actually have the soaps in my rotation get used up eventually and in your case, it will allow me to try out your other scents, although that Dragon's Blood is a keeper for sure and you should come out with an 8 oz tub of that. ;-)
 
Thanks for posting the link. I've been waiting for your Clubman scent to come out & I see on your site it's available. It's my birthday & I treated myself - I just ordered a tub of the Club CBL, can't wait!
 
Just an FYI for the CBL Soap lovers....

I have decided I will be doing some scents in smaller portions. I am prepared to do a few special scents in 2 ounce portions in a 3.5oz tub (the little tub much of my pre-production stuff was distributed in) but will ultimately end up using those containers for 1 ounce "samples" of my regular line-up. Watch for some pine and "christmas" like scents as well as an eclectic mix of scents I find enjoyable. These wont be regularly occurring scents but they are fun and exciting and in the smaller size(s) will be easier to justify addign to your cart.

My regular line-up will start to take shape after the new year, Scents that aren't as popular may not stick around. My goal is to maintain a reasonably sized line of scents and introduce new and exciting ones less often.

This weekend I will be preparing to make available several new soaps
-Pineapple Cilantro
-CBL Barbershop
-Orange Dirt
-Fresh Vetiver

ROSA Bourbania will be returning but in a smaller run- to help keep the price down and make it available to more people I may make it a 2 ounce portion but keep it in the larger 6.5 ounce tub. This may be a week away, I will put your name on a list if you want me to ensure you get some.

I am still working on a Sir Irisch Moos duplication, I am close but not quite there yet. In the process I have developed some exciting Fougere's and Ferns, at least one of these will be made available.

If you want to make special requests for yourself, loved ones, TSC rudolph buddy or the boss just let me know. I have done some already and am willing to continue to do so as long as I have the time and ability. If you need/want special packaging or shipping I will do everything I can to accommodate that as well.

Please feel free to use the coupon code tsc new release 10% to get a discount on your order. If I have set up the site correctly the code will get you 10% off the cost of soaps.
 
Your killing my wallet Chris!

Well, he does have a horde of instant research at his fingertips...he just has to browse the journals to see what’s popular lol!

Edit - Oh man, Fresh Vetiver and this curiously “spicy” Barbershop. Itchy fingers!
 
I am curious about one thing, Chris. Where do you source your tubs? I am thinking about attempting my first soap and would love to have nice tubs like the CBL ones to use.

Thanks.
 
I am curious about one thing, Chris. Where do you source your tubs? I am thinking about attempting my first soap and would love to have nice tubs like the CBL ones to use.

Thanks.
Before I answer I want to be very clear, I believe sourcing supplies (like tubs) is a HUGE hurdle to overcome for start-ups. I mean it when I say it is just this side of impossible to find sources that offer what you are looking for and even harder to find ones that sell in small quantities at reasonable prices. This is an area where relationships start to develop and really do matter. I get the impression sources like these are considered trade secrets.

Rather than post where I get my tubs I’ll PM you (and anyone else) the sites that I get tubs from. I get the larger ones from one place and the smaller 3 ounce ones (like Wild West Soap Co has started using) from another. I don’t mean to be all secretive, I just want to avoid inadvertently sharing “trade secrets”.
 
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