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Question. If the goal of masking and shutting down was so we didn't kill grandma, then why is grandma getting oush down farther down the vaccine line?
I understand the doctors and the nurses being first (sort of like in an airplane you mask yourself and then mask your kid) but the politician, prisoners and now the teacher are butting in line.
I understand the doctors and the nurses being first (sort of like in an airplane you mask yourself and then mask your kid) but the politician, prisoners and now the teacher are butting in line.
I was going to answer you, but all it would be is guesses. We’re following state guidelines in terms of priority, and other than residents of assisted living places, all that is on tier 1a is first responders. Sounds like different states have different priority lists.
Teacher's union pushing:
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In Massachusetts, Inmates Will Be Among First to Get Vaccines (Published 2020)
As prison outbreaks rise, the state has moved inmates forward in the line to receive inoculations.
Congressional aids:
Congressional staffers eligible to receive coronavirus vaccine
The first wave of staff vaccines is meant for "critical" employees.
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POOR GRANDMA!!!
(Disclaimer: This isn't meant to be a political post)
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Glad you got the Moderna Version!
Well, from an epidemiological point of view, inmates, a densely packed population with no ability to socially distance would make sense if the goal is to stop the explosion of cases. Everyone else listed there regardless of political or personal beliefs would be for other reasons. Strictly speaking of those who should be “first”.
I almost posted a response similar about inmates but also was gonna add that it also would seem a good deterent to committing crimes if they were Not at the top of the list....
That would be assuming people would commit a crime to get the vaccine. Which I guess could be argued dumber things have happened.
But when San Quinten had an outbreak, it impacted many of the outlying hospitals. So taking steps to avoid an influx of patients to hospital beds would make sense.
But when San Quinten had an outbreak, it impacted many of the outlying hospitals. So taking steps to avoid an influx of patients to hospital beds would make sense.
But isn't Grandma at a greater risk in her nursing home that uncle Bob is in prison?
Don't get me wrong I have no problem with anyone who wants it should be able to get it. Yet the whole mask, social distance and shout down was premised that grandma was at risk of dying.
To me the main thing is that "They" whomever that may be are getting it.
Well, that’s more of a question that would need scientific data to back-up the answer. And at risk for what defined. At risk for dying most likely. At risk for spreading it to 50 more people would be a different debate. I wasn’t talking about prisoners in front of grandma, but in relation to the others that were posted. I would also assume each tier has many populations included in it. So personally prisons and nursing homes in the same tier would make sense to me.
Personally I’d like to see the government stepping up a bit. Maybe they are, I’ve been trying not to be inundated by COVID stuff outside of my area. But this isn’t something that can or at least shouldn’t be given in a drive through tent like the flu vaccine. You should be monitored for 15min after and I needed to stay for 30min because of my strong reaction to shellfish. Can’t do that on a mass scale in a hospital parking lot drive-thru tent or your local Walgreens.
Feel free to delete if this is political.
Feel free to delete if this is political.
TobyC
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"Texas is currently in Phase 1A of distribution of the vaccines and that includes people in long-term care facilities and frontline health workers.
There are approximately 1.9 million Texans in this phase and it is anticipated that it will take a few weeks before moving on to Phase 1B.
The Phase 1B priorities are below:
1. People 65 years of age and older.
2. People 16 years of age and older with at least one chronic medical condition that puts them at increased risk for severe illness from the virus that causes COVID-19, such as but not limited to:"
There are approximately 1.9 million Texans in this phase and it is anticipated that it will take a few weeks before moving on to Phase 1B.
The Phase 1B priorities are below:
1. People 65 years of age and older.
2. People 16 years of age and older with at least one chronic medical condition that puts them at increased risk for severe illness from the virus that causes COVID-19, such as but not limited to:"
I wasnt implying commit a crime to get vaccinated I was saying dont commit a crime because they were last to get it... There have been stories of people who couldnt afford their healthcare because of serious illness becoming desperate and committing a crime so the state would be required to pay for their treatment though which is sad......
Our latest guidelines on vaccine
Phase 1A
"Everyone in our state who wants to be vaccinated will get their turn. In the meantime, we commit to keeping you informed of the progress being made in the phased approach for administering vaccines and will let you know when and where you can receive it. We call on all South Carolinians to step up by stepping back until it is their turn in the plan.
"For individuals in Phase 1A who have not been contacted regarding an opportunity for vaccination yet, DHEC is working with our partners at SCHA and SCMA as well as numerous independent providers and vaccination locations to onboard them and allocate and distribute vaccines in the coming weeks. As more locations for vaccination become available, we will be contacting health care workers via their employers, associations, or licensing entities to provide a way for them to sign up if they wish to be contacted when it is their turn to make an appointment for vaccination. It is going to take several weeks to a couple of months to vaccinate all members of Phase 1A, so please be patient as we go through this process.
Phase 1A
- Residents and staff of long-term care facilities
- Health care personnel (with initial focus on health care workers critical to the mission of preventing death), including:
- Persons performing direct medical care to suspected and/or confirmed COVID-19 patients: medical house staff (i.e., interns, residents, fellows), nurses, nurse’s aides, physical therapists (PT), physicians, physician assistants, respiratory therapists (RT), speech pathologists providing swallowing assessments during a patient’s infectious period, occupational therapists, translators with direct patient contact, students (medical, nursing, PT, RT)
- Ancillary staff directly interacting with suspected and/or confirmed COVID-19 patients: laboratory personnel handing potentially infectious specimens, phlebotomists and radiology technicians
- Emergency room staff in the above categories who provide direct patient care who are at high risk of exposure to undiagnosed, suspected and/or confirmed COVID-19 patients
- Paid and volunteer medical first responders (EMS, fire department, and law enforcement personnel who provide emergency medical services as certified EMTs or paramedics) and hospital transport personnel in direct contact with suspected and/or confirmed COVID-19 patients
- Persons providing direct medical care in correctional facilities
- Persons providing direct medical care in dialysis and infusion centers
- Workers in outpatient medical settings treating persons with suspected or confirmed COVID-19 infection
- Workers in settings where monoclonal antibodies for COVID-19 infusions are given
- Home health and Hospice workers
- Public health nurses/personnel at risk for COVID-19 exposure
- Autopsy room staff, coroners, embalmers and funeral home staff at risk of exposure to bodily fluids
- Dentists and dental hygienists and assistants
- Persons aged 75 years and older (with or without underlying health conditions)
- Front-line essential workers (sectors included by ACIP include fire fighters, law enforcement officers, corrections officers, food and agricultural workers, United States Postal Service workers, manufacturing workers, grocery store workers, public transit workers and those who work in the educational sector—teachers, support staff and day care workers)
- Essential workers not included in Phase 1B (examples included by ACIP include people who work in transportation and logistics, food service, housing construction and finance, information technology, communications, energy, law, media, public safety and public health staff who are non-front-line health care workers)
- Persons aged 65-74 years (with or without underlying health conditions)
- Persons aged 16-64 years with underlying health conditions that increase the risk for severe COVID-19 (more information to follow from the SC COVID-19 Vaccine Advisory Committee)
- Early Winter – Vaccinations for Phase 1A is anticipated to continue through February 2021.
- Late Winter to early Spring – Based on current CDC guidance, the state will move into Phase 1B once 70% of South Carolinians identified in Phase 1A have been vaccinated.
- Spring to Summer – Phase 2 is anticipated to begin in spring 2021, with the vaccines expected to become available for the general public during the summer and fall of 2021.
"Everyone in our state who wants to be vaccinated will get their turn. In the meantime, we commit to keeping you informed of the progress being made in the phased approach for administering vaccines and will let you know when and where you can receive it. We call on all South Carolinians to step up by stepping back until it is their turn in the plan.
"For individuals in Phase 1A who have not been contacted regarding an opportunity for vaccination yet, DHEC is working with our partners at SCHA and SCMA as well as numerous independent providers and vaccination locations to onboard them and allocate and distribute vaccines in the coming weeks. As more locations for vaccination become available, we will be contacting health care workers via their employers, associations, or licensing entities to provide a way for them to sign up if they wish to be contacted when it is their turn to make an appointment for vaccination. It is going to take several weeks to a couple of months to vaccinate all members of Phase 1A, so please be patient as we go through this process.
Last rant of the year (hopefully)
my wife works for a competing (lesser quality) health care system than the one I work for.... she is a mid level provider and had the opportunity to get the Pfizer vaccine a few weeks ago when it was released in MI. HOWEVER, her healthcare system said “ you have to go to one Walgreen’s location near your office”...well it’s also an hour from our home and my wife only works 2 days a week. Anyway, Walgreen’s will only allow potential vaccine recipients to sign up for an appointment on their website. Guess what? “This page won’t load, we are having issues” my wife tried her work windows PC, our Apple laptop, her iPhone, and our iPad. No luck for 2 weeks. Even sat on hold for 30 min with the number the error page said to call...”we can’t help you.” She is no longer eligible to get the vaccine because Walgreens and her health care system failed her and their employees. Rant over.
Ya, we have a mess of nurses that are taking the “wait and see” approach. Not really helpful to the whole intent. But the community doc that are chomping at the bit to get it don’t mind since they are next in line behind the hospital.
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