Thayer's Lemon!" - @NurseDave
Ok, so recently I've been doing so more research and looking into Thayer's products. I wrongfully assumed they were all the same, except for scent. I love comparing ingredients lists to see what the exact difference is between them. I think this gives the buyer a more informed decision on which product they may want to purchase, rather than just looking at the front of the label. Going along with prior assumptions I made, I thought the products were all the same, except that some were alcohol free and others were not. Sort of, but there's a little more to it.
Also, there is some debate about whether or not this is Witch Hazel. Let me set the record straight on this.... it is not, nor does it claim to be. The thing I just learned myself is that the alcohol free products are called Facial Toners, and the products with alcohol are called Astringents. They all contain a Witch Hazel extract..... not a distillate. Witch Hazel as a standalone product is by definition a distillate of the Witch Hazel plant. This is not. It does contain the extracts, which Thayer's claims is better and preserves the tannins for more benefit. They do say Witch Hazel on the label, but that is not part of the name of the product, so they are not claiming to be said product, they are just informing you that it contains Witch Hazel [extracts]. (Note: I think the old labels were a bit confusing and ambiguous on this point. The new product labels are much more clear on this) This post is not meant to belabor this point or spur along this debate. I am merealy stating facts, and not opinion. Use the product as you would any Witch Hazel product..... and call it Witch Hazel if you want (I don't care).
Now, onto the fun stuff.
First off, we will start with the alcohol-free Facial Toners. This product comes in Unscented and 5 different scents: Original (Witch Hazel scent), Lavender, Coconut Water, Rose, and Cucumber. Now, these 5 products are all the same, with the exception of the scent components.
Unscented Toner Ingredients:
Purified Water, Glycerin, Certified Organic Witch Hazel Ext Blend (Hamamelis Virginiana Extract (Witch Hazel*), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice (Filet of Aloe Vera*)), Phenoxyethanol, Citric Acid, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract
Original Toner Ingredients:
Purified Water, Glycerin, Certified Organic Witch Hazel Ext Blend (Hamamelis Virginiana Extract (Witch Hazel*), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice (Filet of Aloe Vera*)), Phenoxyethanol, Fragrance (Natural Witch Hazel), Citric Acid, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract
Lavender Toner Ingredients:
Purified Water, Glycerin, Certified Organic Witch Hazel Ext Blend (Hamamelis Virginiana Extract (Witch Hazel*), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice (Filet of Aloe Vera*)), Phenoxyethanol, Lavandula Angustifolia (Lavender) Flower Water, Fragrance (Natural Lavender), Citric Acid, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract
Coconut Water Toner Ingredients:
Purified Water, Glycerin, Certified Organic Witch Hazel Ext Blend (Hamamelis Virginiana Extract (Witch Hazel*), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice (Filet of Aloe Vera*)), Phenoxyethanol, Cocos Nucifera (Coconut) Water, Fragrance (Natural Coconut), Citric Acid, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract.
Rose Toner Ingredients:
Purified Water, Glycerin, Certified Organic Witch Hazel Ext Blend (Hamamelis Virginiana Extract (Witch Hazel*), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice (Filet of Aloe Vera*)), Phenoxyethanol, Rosa Centifolia (Rose) Flower Water, Fragrance (Natural Rose), Citric Acid, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract
Cucumber Toner Ingredients:
Purified Water, Glycerin, Certified Organic Witch Hazel Ext Blend (Hamamelis Virginiana Extract (Witch Hazel*), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice (Filet of Aloe Vera*)), Phenoxyethanol, Cucumis Sativus (Cucumber) Fruit Extract, Citric Acid, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract
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Now we move onto the two Alcohol containing products, which are labeled Astringents. One labeled Original (Witch Hazel scent), and the other Lemon. "There's Lemon!" Now, these two products are wildly different.
Original Astringent Ingredients:
Purified Water, SD Alcohol 40-B (Natural Grain), Glycerin (Vegetable), Natural Fragrance, Certified Organic Witch Hazel Ext Blend (Hamamelis virginiana Extract (Witch Hazel*), Aloe barbadensis Leaf Juice (Filet of Aloe Vera*)), Phenoxyethanol
First of all if we compare the Astringent to the Facial Toner we note the following differences. First is the addition of alcohol to the astringent (obviously) and Natural Fragrance. The Astringent is also lacking the Citric Acid and Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract that are in the toner. Other than that, the two formulas are identical.
Now when we look at the Lemon Astringent, we see that the ingredients are identical to the Original, to a point, then the Lemon gets all kinds of crazy and adds Lemon Fragrance, Citric Acid and a whopping 6 additional plant extracts!
Lemon Astringent Ingredients:
Purified Water, SD Alcohol 40-B (Natural Grain), Glycerin (Vegetable), Natural Fragrance, Certified Organic Witch Hazel Ext Blend (Hamamelis Virginiana Extract (Witch Hazel*), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice (Filet of Aloe Vera*)), Phenoxyethanol, Cymbopogon Schoenanthus (Lemongrass) Extract, Citrus Aurantium Dulcis (Orange) Peel Extract, Rubus Fruticosus (Blackberry) Leaf Extract, Chamomilla Recutita (Matricaria) Flower Extract, Urtica Dioica (Nettle) Extract, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Extract, Fragrance (Natural Lemon), Citric Acid
I can see now, why @NurseDave loves the Lemon so much, and why he says his skin feels great from using it. I'm now totally on board to give it a try, as it seems to be the best of their witch Hazel products. (Unless of course you are looking for an alcohol-free product).
Ok, so recently I've been doing so more research and looking into Thayer's products. I wrongfully assumed they were all the same, except for scent. I love comparing ingredients lists to see what the exact difference is between them. I think this gives the buyer a more informed decision on which product they may want to purchase, rather than just looking at the front of the label. Going along with prior assumptions I made, I thought the products were all the same, except that some were alcohol free and others were not. Sort of, but there's a little more to it.
Also, there is some debate about whether or not this is Witch Hazel. Let me set the record straight on this.... it is not, nor does it claim to be. The thing I just learned myself is that the alcohol free products are called Facial Toners, and the products with alcohol are called Astringents. They all contain a Witch Hazel extract..... not a distillate. Witch Hazel as a standalone product is by definition a distillate of the Witch Hazel plant. This is not. It does contain the extracts, which Thayer's claims is better and preserves the tannins for more benefit. They do say Witch Hazel on the label, but that is not part of the name of the product, so they are not claiming to be said product, they are just informing you that it contains Witch Hazel [extracts]. (Note: I think the old labels were a bit confusing and ambiguous on this point. The new product labels are much more clear on this) This post is not meant to belabor this point or spur along this debate. I am merealy stating facts, and not opinion. Use the product as you would any Witch Hazel product..... and call it Witch Hazel if you want (I don't care).
Now, onto the fun stuff.
First off, we will start with the alcohol-free Facial Toners. This product comes in Unscented and 5 different scents: Original (Witch Hazel scent), Lavender, Coconut Water, Rose, and Cucumber. Now, these 5 products are all the same, with the exception of the scent components.
Unscented Toner Ingredients:
Purified Water, Glycerin, Certified Organic Witch Hazel Ext Blend (Hamamelis Virginiana Extract (Witch Hazel*), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice (Filet of Aloe Vera*)), Phenoxyethanol, Citric Acid, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract
Original Toner Ingredients:
Purified Water, Glycerin, Certified Organic Witch Hazel Ext Blend (Hamamelis Virginiana Extract (Witch Hazel*), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice (Filet of Aloe Vera*)), Phenoxyethanol, Fragrance (Natural Witch Hazel), Citric Acid, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract
Lavender Toner Ingredients:
Purified Water, Glycerin, Certified Organic Witch Hazel Ext Blend (Hamamelis Virginiana Extract (Witch Hazel*), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice (Filet of Aloe Vera*)), Phenoxyethanol, Lavandula Angustifolia (Lavender) Flower Water, Fragrance (Natural Lavender), Citric Acid, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract
Coconut Water Toner Ingredients:
Purified Water, Glycerin, Certified Organic Witch Hazel Ext Blend (Hamamelis Virginiana Extract (Witch Hazel*), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice (Filet of Aloe Vera*)), Phenoxyethanol, Cocos Nucifera (Coconut) Water, Fragrance (Natural Coconut), Citric Acid, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract.
Rose Toner Ingredients:
Purified Water, Glycerin, Certified Organic Witch Hazel Ext Blend (Hamamelis Virginiana Extract (Witch Hazel*), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice (Filet of Aloe Vera*)), Phenoxyethanol, Rosa Centifolia (Rose) Flower Water, Fragrance (Natural Rose), Citric Acid, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract
Cucumber Toner Ingredients:
Purified Water, Glycerin, Certified Organic Witch Hazel Ext Blend (Hamamelis Virginiana Extract (Witch Hazel*), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice (Filet of Aloe Vera*)), Phenoxyethanol, Cucumis Sativus (Cucumber) Fruit Extract, Citric Acid, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract
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Now we move onto the two Alcohol containing products, which are labeled Astringents. One labeled Original (Witch Hazel scent), and the other Lemon. "There's Lemon!" Now, these two products are wildly different.
Original Astringent Ingredients:
Purified Water, SD Alcohol 40-B (Natural Grain), Glycerin (Vegetable), Natural Fragrance, Certified Organic Witch Hazel Ext Blend (Hamamelis virginiana Extract (Witch Hazel*), Aloe barbadensis Leaf Juice (Filet of Aloe Vera*)), Phenoxyethanol
First of all if we compare the Astringent to the Facial Toner we note the following differences. First is the addition of alcohol to the astringent (obviously) and Natural Fragrance. The Astringent is also lacking the Citric Acid and Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract that are in the toner. Other than that, the two formulas are identical.
Now when we look at the Lemon Astringent, we see that the ingredients are identical to the Original, to a point, then the Lemon gets all kinds of crazy and adds Lemon Fragrance, Citric Acid and a whopping 6 additional plant extracts!
Lemon Astringent Ingredients:
Purified Water, SD Alcohol 40-B (Natural Grain), Glycerin (Vegetable), Natural Fragrance, Certified Organic Witch Hazel Ext Blend (Hamamelis Virginiana Extract (Witch Hazel*), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice (Filet of Aloe Vera*)), Phenoxyethanol, Cymbopogon Schoenanthus (Lemongrass) Extract, Citrus Aurantium Dulcis (Orange) Peel Extract, Rubus Fruticosus (Blackberry) Leaf Extract, Chamomilla Recutita (Matricaria) Flower Extract, Urtica Dioica (Nettle) Extract, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Extract, Fragrance (Natural Lemon), Citric Acid
I can see now, why @NurseDave loves the Lemon so much, and why he says his skin feels great from using it. I'm now totally on board to give it a try, as it seems to be the best of their witch Hazel products. (Unless of course you are looking for an alcohol-free product).
