Don't forget about the lovely @LNHC here in PAC 12 COUNTRY! Lisa at LNHC, Rod at Stirling, and Chris at CBL are pretty much all I buy now. For shaving, and bathing. Not quite the heathen you are Don.By the way...I might add that one of the greatest...if not THE greatest suppliers of Wet Shavers and Wet Bathers (for people like me who haven't had a full face shave in over three months), and coffee lovers, Stirling Soap Co. ( @Joe Hackett), resides here in the deep south and in SEC country.